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 May 24, 2006

Better Than Nothing...

Well we had a broken line of thunderstorms come through the area early this morning. You can see what it looked like at 4am on the radar image below:

Radar Image.jpg

Here are some of the area totals from that line:

KCI: .04"
DOWNTOWN: .41"
LEES SUMMIT: .31"
ST. JOSEPH: .01"
TOPEKA: .27"
OLATHE: .07"

The cold front is still West of us... as you can see below:

may 24 surface.gif
Click to enlarge


Until that front comes through, there will be the chance of additional showers or thunderstorms. The BEST chance will be to the South and East of the Metro. As I am typing this, there is new development right on the eastern fringes of the Metro:

may 24 esp.jpg

Click the image above to see the CURRENT ESP radar. We will keep an eye on any developing thunderstorms through the afternoon!
Just an update to include the TORNADO WATCH issued for our Eastern counties! The WATCH goes until 8pm... here are the Missouri counties included:
Carroll
Henry
Johnson
Lafayette
Livingston
Pettis
Ray
Saline
Thunderstorms could develop over these counties, and then race eastward out of our area. We will keep you updated if anything does turn severe!

We are in the process of updating our website. I am putting this question out to all bloggers: What kind of maps/graphics would you like to see included on our website? Is the daily almanac important to you... a local temperature map... or a map with model forecasted clouds/rain? Think about it, and comment below! Thanks for you help!

Jamie

Posted by at May 24, 2006 10:07 AM

Comments

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I would like to see a 3-day temperature/dewpoint, wind, precipation graph, something that is broken down in 3 hour segments.

Using graphs and moving average lines this would very helpful.

DAVID:
Interesting idea! That may be a little complex, but we will look into it. I am talking about maps that would show either current data, or a model-generated forecast... things that would be *automatically* updated. The idea you have (I think) would have to be something we manually made. But we might be able to do that, too...
Thanks!
Jamie

Posted by: David at May 24, 2006 10:53 AM

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0.48" here in Tonganoxie - a much-needed break from the dry spell. It looks like we lucked out, being one of the higher totals in the region.

To answer your question posted today:
I'd like to see more contoured snowfall/rainfall maps during big events...they are very useful and often missing from many online resources. You often post these relatively early which is great - keep that up.

Additionally, I like your "future radar" products...when big severe events are coming I know you feature this product prominently on TV...maybe some links available too? I know that is somewhat of fleeting importance, yet is still a beneficial tool.

Are your model products used on TV (convective precip forecasts, etc...) proprietary or are they straight up GFS/NAM or some merge of the GFS/NAM, etc...? I know you can't use that lingo prominently on TV, but maybe if you could sprinkle in some of those details as to WHICH model you're using and what the model changes have been (ala Tom Skilling of WGN), those of us looking for a higher level of analysis would be drawn in both online and on TV. I think the blog already does a great job of this and I appreciate that. I also appreciate post-analysis - the post-mortem on forecasts - either sucessful ones or ones that were a bust...a lot can be learned, especially from the later.

HI, JAKE!
Thanks for your rainfall report, and for your suggestions! I like your suggestion about the model data. The model we use the most on-air is our in-house ADONIS model... put out by the company, Weather Central. If we disagree with ADONIS, we do have the option to use the NAM or GFS... which we sometimes do!
Jamie

Posted by: Jake at May 24, 2006 11:03 AM

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Hi Jamie, as I think about your question, it's hard to say what I want exactly, I personally like a flood of information, just because something isn't useful at a certain moment, doens't mean down the road I may find it important.

What about some weather learning stuff? I know we get alot of the "why t-storms develop" discussions, but what bout some education on reading the models? In the past you provided some chart about caps, which to this day I couldn't figure out...

Keep up the good work...

DAVE:
Good ideas! Thanks!

Posted by: Dave C. at May 24, 2006 11:03 AM

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Good Morning, Jamie

Things seem to be setting up atmospherically for another round of TS this afternoon with the front passing. Here in Leawood at 4:00 am we had a quick 1/4" or so with some lightening..it looked like the line coming south would fall apart at midnight and do the KC split but it refired and the rain was welcomed. As for the blog, I would like to see the models continue, a temp and when applicable precip area recap daily, and I don't know about available bandwith..space ect, Jamie..but a local photo display would be great! with all the new digital cameras and our incredible changing skies..digital photos of storms, clouds, and other phenom would be awesome. Whatever you guy's come up with is welcome and thank you so much to yourself, Gary, Jeff and everyone who makes this a great place for us weather buffs daily!!

Robert

ROBERT:
We know you are a loyal blogger, and we thank you for your suggestions! I am glad you got in on some of the rain early this morning. Our eastern counties could get a thunderstorm still this afternoon, as the front is now coming through. There is a tornado watch our for those eastern counties until 8pm!
Jamie

Posted by: SkyMan at May 24, 2006 11:27 AM

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I would like to see a "neighborhood" map showing current temperatures of nearby cities like you do during the newscasts. A map showing the current satellite & radar together would be interesting too.

MARK:
Those are great suggestions! Thanks!
Jamie

Posted by: Mark M at May 24, 2006 12:06 PM

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How 'bout making the radar map a clickable new window. Maybe it will update every 3 minutes or something. That would be cool.

KERI:
Thanks for commenting! We are going to work on this over the next few weeks, and put some of your ideas into practice on our website!
Jamie

Posted by: Keri Worley at May 24, 2006 12:06 PM

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Better than nothing is right!

I would LOVE to see the ESP in motion! Maybe the latest half our or so...???

JODY:
I agree... that would be a great addition to the site!
Thanks for your input!
Jamie

Posted by: Jody Walker at May 24, 2006 12:30 PM

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Jamie
Is it possible when showing storm cells that ya'll can put directional arrows or tells which direction they are moving? For example, the cell above that is near Buckner....if it is moving towards the South East I might need to run home and cover the concrete pad that was just poured an hour ago!

Jim @ Fayetteville MO

JIM:
That is a GREAT idea! I never thought of that before... I am glad you shared it with us! :)
Jamie

Posted by: Jim Yates at May 24, 2006 1:16 PM

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I turn to the weather blog for nearly all of my weather info. One thing I like from a competitor's site is the live action radar. I do turn to it during storms, then come back to see what you all have to say.

I like the extended forecast with high/low/precip chances.

Maybe a "learning corner" where you post educational articles from time to time, common terminology, etc. I love when you put more detailed, educational info in a blog entry. Perhaps breaking them out separately would give them more visibility.

CARRIE:
Great suggestions. We think you will be happy with the new site once we get everything up and running. Hopefully you won't have to go to ANY other source once we do!

I used to post more "Weather 101" type stuff... but reading discussions with some of the other bloggers that are more advanced (and tend to comment more)... I wasn't sure that is the content you all were looking for. But hearing what you and others are now saying, maybe I will start adding it in again!
Thanks!
Jamie

Posted by: Carrie at May 24, 2006 1:19 PM

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Any chance for severe weather/thunderstorms this afternoon? It just feels very muggy and humid like it could do something.

ERIN:
The best chance of thunderstorms is SOUTH and EAST of the 4-county Metro area. There is a tornado watch for these counties until 8pm... but it will likely expire earlier!
Jamie

Posted by: Erin at May 24, 2006 1:20 PM

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Some suggestions for the new website (some have already been mentioned)

* Live ESP in motion
* Daily Almanac (records, precip, yearly averages for precip, etc.)
* Links to various models (precip totals & ridges/troughs/etc.)
* Live weather data from various locations in the metro -- including Greenwood! :)

Thanks, and keep up the good work. I think its great that you're asking your viewers what they'd want to add to the new site!!

Tim in Greenwood

TIM:
Thank you so much... those are GREAT suggestions!!
Jamie

Posted by: Tim in Greenwood at May 24, 2006 2:23 PM

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How are the chances of severe weather for Appleton City I looked at the SPC and they have a MD discussion with AC in the area saying there could be a WW later this afternoon.

As for maps i would like to see a futurecast type map that shows where the precip will be developing. I also like the ideas for the direction arrows for storm cells and the educational corner. Thanks for the constant updates you are the best.

Daniel,

There is no chance tonight! And thank you for the feedback. We will be gathering all of the ideas.

Gary

Posted by: Daniel at May 24, 2006 2:25 PM

I guess I would like to see things that are maybe too geeky for others. I would love to see the 500 mb vorts, 850mbs, dewpoint maps, along with much of the same things on the SPC forecast page [CAPE/LIFT/SHEER/etc]. I guess a link would be ok for these. Also, since the question was asked, I will expand a bit..I would love real time blogging that would allow the other bloggers to interact and have the ability to share data/insight much more than the current method. Also, it would be really cool to have "learning series" types of blogs when the weather patterns are slow! This would be very helpful for both hobbiests and the biggest enthusiasts!

Scott,

Thank you for the ideas. I doubt we will be able to have the interactive blog as you are talking about. We will certainly consider it as one of the possibilities.

Gary

Posted by: Scott at May 24, 2006 3:28 PM

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Jamie...I read your blog everyday and am thrilled that you guys are asking for suggestions. I would like to reiterate the request for a radar map that opens in a different window that automatically updates every couple minutes. That way I can keep it open while i'm at work and check if something is going on.

On another point, I woke up at 3:30 this morning to the thunder and lightning and flipped on the TV to see if there was anything severe going on. I was so thrilled that Brett had put up a notification that stated there wasn't anything severe at that time. Sometimes (especially in the middle of the night) it's reassuring to know that there is nothing to be worried about. I checked all 4 other stations and they had nothing.

Thanks again!

Jennifer

JENNIFER:
I will pass your comment along to Brett, I am sure he would love to hear that! :) I do like the idea of having the radar pop up in it's own screen!
Thanks!
Jamie

Posted by: Jennifer at May 24, 2006 4:23 PM

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Jamie

I was wondering how the thunderstorm complexes form on the high plains this time of year, and what causes an MCS to generate? If we do not get some wet weather soon it will really get hot because of the lowered levels of evapotranspiration, and low soil moisture

Devin

DEVIN:
An MCS is basically a cluster or line of thunderstorms. It can form in many different ways (eg. from an increasing low level jet or the clashing of airmasses along frontal boundaries). But you need moisture, instability and lift to get one going and to sustain it.
Jamie

Posted by: Devin Kellerman at May 24, 2006 5:41 PM

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I'd love to see a page that includes a "beginner's guide". There are many acronyms thrown around that are confusing to the average user. Also, a history page (i.e., "On This Date"), an almanac of the region's weather, or some other fun weather facts. We've only been here for a year and a half so I don't have anything to compare weather conditions to. Links to other weather-related web pages (i.e., IWINS, NOAA, etc.) would also be good.

MATT:
I like the beginners guide idea! We will also look into an "On this Date" page. As for links... well... we're trying to give you everything on our page so you don't HAVE to link anywhere else! ;)
Thanks for your post!
Jamie

Posted by: Matt at May 24, 2006 10:11 PM

 
 

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