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Storm diving south
Good late morning everyone,
The new data this morning continued the trend from last night. Below, you can see the 500 mb flow valid Thursday morning. The X near Mexico is the upper level storm diving well to the south. And the trough is positively tilted at this point which will limit any lifting and thus any significant precipitation is unlikely.

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This upper level storm hasn't formed yet. It will be developing during the day on Wednesday. So, there is still some hope of a further north and better tilted solution. But, until I see any evidence of it we are thinking the chance of any winter precipitation is slight.
At least we had a nice rain with some heavy thunderstorms last night. Did any of you sleep through the thunder and lightning? KCI had 1.33" of rain.
Have a great day.
Gary
Posted by at November 28, 2006 10:31 AM
Hello Mr. Lezak,
Do you still expect some sort of accumulating precip tomorrow night? (Ice, sleet, or snow)?
Posted by: Ben Tracy at November 28, 2006 10:36 AM
Go figure! Typical KC weather.
Posted by: Bryan at November 28, 2006 10:49 AM
South. South. South. Always South. I'm sure the folks down there think it always goes North. Drats.
Posted by: hank at November 28, 2006 11:00 AM
Rain? What rain? I live southwest of Kingsville and my rain gauge has a maybe a tenth of an inch. Not really shocked to see the storm disappear from the forcast. Snow storms seem to go too far north, or too far south. Maybe I am wrong. I am still hoping for a white christmas at this point, but not going to hold my breath. Bring on the snow!!!
Posted by: Kimberley at November 28, 2006 11:04 AM
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Gary.
Just noticed that the NWS has just increased our snow chances for Thursday night. Why do you suppose this is? Don't they see the same data that we are seeing? Just wondering if you can explain. Seems clear that it doesn't appear to good at this point. Still have fingers crossed in hopes of another flip flop. Have a good one.
Matt Maisch
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Matt,
We must have the storm lift further north.
Gary
Posted by: Matt Maisch at November 28, 2006 11:17 AM
Posted by: Christi at November 28, 2006 11:17 AM
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Hey Gary, too bad about the snow, I know how you love it. Do you know how much rain we got on the plaza?
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We had 0.88" on the Plaza!
Gary
Posted by: mark at November 28, 2006 11:19 AM
Didn't have any thunder that I heard, but since my wife says I snore as loud as any jet engine we very well may have had thunder and lightning in south Overland Park. We did get a good bit of rain, thank goodness, since the ground was so dry and cracked. Kinda scary.
Posted by: Tom at November 28, 2006 11:37 AM
Gary- Even as a child I couldn't sleep through thunder. Makes me nervous for some reason, but listening to the rain falling was nice. Those were some fat rain drops! Hope we can get a little snow out of this, but I'm nervous about the ice. Keep up the good work!
Ilana
Posted by: Ilana at November 28, 2006 11:38 AM
We had some very loud thunder and vivid lightening between 5:00 a.m. and 7:00 a.m. this morning, with .37 inches of rain.
Posted by: Ann Anderson at November 28, 2006 11:48 AM
Gary,
I was just wondering why the NWS went and issued aweather alert when there was chance that it wouldn't hit us? Do they realize that it sent the city into a panic. I work at a school and this weather alert was all that everybody could talk about and what we were going to do if we didn't have school.I just don't understand how they could jump the gun like that. I thought they were here to help protect us from bad weather and not scare us.
Thanks for always being on top of things!
Megan
Posted by: megan at November 28, 2006 11:55 AM
That is really frustrating, and I'm sure for you as well! I hope that something happens and we will end up having some winter weather! Hopefully something materializes.
Posted by: Gregg at November 28, 2006 12:04 PM
Slept fine through the thunder and lightning.. It was the cat that pounced on my chest that woke me up.
Looks like the jet has held steady from the SW. It's running right along that trough which isn't helping any moisture lifting at all.
Oddly, some online sites are now calling for freezing rain tomorrow evening. Still not quite enough good clues to draw a good forecast out of it. Betting that it's going to stay that way until midday tomorrow.
Posted by: David at November 28, 2006 12:10 PM
Is it too early to cancel Wednesday night church activities? 90% is enough certainty to me. Do you expect poor driving conditions (ice, etc) during the day tomorrow?
Posted by: William at November 28, 2006 12:11 PM
gary, is their any chance of an ice storm, i dont want to go to work thursday to a stupid meeting we have to attend please say ice storm, please or maybe some heavy snow so i can go sledding , thank you craig harvey
Posted by: craig harvey at November 28, 2006 12:12 PM
Will this storm impact your initial predicition of our first snow arriving Dec. 10th or are we still on cycle for that potential storm?
We've had storms in the past that have changed tracks. I'm still crossing my fingers that this week's comes together for us.
Posted by: Rod at November 28, 2006 12:30 PM
Darn. I was ready for some winter weather:)
Posted by: rolanda at November 28, 2006 12:32 PM
I have a question if you have the time. What's the difference, and why, between positive and negative tilt?
Posted by: Tom B at November 28, 2006 12:41 PM
I have a 4 and 3 year old and we were up at 3:30 am and then again at 5. I enjoyed the thunderstorm part but I do not see why we can not have thunder in the middle of the day anymore???
I wish the weather forecasts could be saying 3 days out predicting ice (or nothing) and then 1 or two days out change it to predicting snow instead of the other way around!!!
Posted by: Leonard at November 28, 2006 12:50 PM
Gary---Just to let you know, I live in Olathe 1/4 mile West of Indian Creek Parkway and BlackBob Rd. Had 1.02 inches from Monday morn 11/27 through Noon today 11/28.
Also wanted your take on if Coffey County Kansas (between Emporia and Ottawa on I-35)is more in line for snow accumulation, freezing rain or nothing at all. I hunt in this area and some snow cover for next weekend would be great. Thanks, Gary!!
Posted by: Bob Davis at November 28, 2006 12:52 PM
Thanks so much for your weather blog, and for telling us that you would update it mid-morning. I missed your 10 P.M. weather last night, and the radio station this morning was giving an alarmist forecast for Wednesday. I am much calmer after reading your blog.
P.S. I sleep with foam ear plugs in my ears, so I slept through the thunder and lightning.
Posted by: Donna Widmer at November 28, 2006 12:55 PM
Posted by: Chicago David at November 28, 2006 1:09 PM
Still a chance it could jump north..but its been the trend this year for these to nearly cutoff and dive south.
Posted by: Scott at November 28, 2006 1:19 PM
Gary, Hi! I am in my Public Speaking class at Kingsville R-I High School (Johnson County, MO) right now---1:40p.m. Tuesday, Nov. 28, 2006. I'm not a student.....I'm the teacher! My students and I are wondering what the precipitation chances are for this Thursday, Nov. 30? How is this coming storm looking? We'd love a snow day! My senior high students KNOW that I always listen to Channel 41 weather forecasts, 3--4 times a day! Channel 41 has the most likeable, most knowledgeable, the all around best weather staff! So, if you get a chance.... reply sometime. Thanks for the pet pics, too--I'm crazy about doggies & those photos always bring a smile to me! Keep up the good work! Kim
Posted by: Kim Willcockson at November 28, 2006 1:42 PM
As of right now I am still not ready to hit the panic button ( although I have flipped open the protective cover ) regarding not getting any acc. snow. Thats a BIG shift in the models and the storm STILL HAS NOT FORMED. However, if we dont get at least an inch of snow, I am calling winter off. This is getting obsered. No good winters for the past 10 yrs.
I still hope that winter is just being slow this year and will show its face in FULL FORCE in DEC.
How does the long term look for Dec? Do you think it will be active?
Posted by: Matt at November 28, 2006 1:57 PM
Gary,
Sure enough it happened again! Seems like every year it snows less and less. I've noticed it's gradual. Good job though, maybe it wasn't to be.
Sick of warm falls and disppointed in Weather systems,
Tim
Posted by: Tim at November 28, 2006 2:14 PM
Afternoon Gary, our weather service out of Topeka still has a storm watch for tomorrow but the latest data from them is shoving the heavy freezing rain down to the south along I-35 according to them. We received .68 here at Berryton, KS. Anyway this storm was hopeful. Maybe another will come along. Keep up the good work. Michael/Topeka
Posted by: michael huffman at November 28, 2006 2:20 PM
Do you want to have a contest to see who gets more snow this winter? ;) This storm is looking pretty exciting for Southwest Ohio... that's for sure.
We are closing on our new house on Dec. 15th. We just did the inspection today, and it went well. It's funny: the current homeowner said he just spent a month in Kansas City for his job! What are the chances?!
I hope all is well for all of you!
Jamie
Posted by: Jamie J at November 28, 2006 2:24 PM
How the heck does a computer know were a upper low is going to move, and why do you trust it because everytime you (we) trust it it stabbs you in the back. Sorry but im just sick of this weather going around us time and time again.By the way 1.49 in DeKalb,Mo.
Posted by: Michael at November 28, 2006 2:24 PM
I'm very seriously disappointed about the lack of snow that's in the forecast now. Sigh. . . Anyhow, thanks to the kids, I didn't manage to sleep through the thunderstorms. Around 2:30 or so, we had one big BOOM that sent both of them scrambling for my bed. At least THEY got some sleep afterward. . .
Posted by: Bobbi at November 28, 2006 2:29 PM
Hey Gary will there be anyone that gets any heavy winter precip and where will it be
Posted by: daniel at November 28, 2006 2:33 PM
Gary, just looked at the 18UTC NAM and it looks ever so slighty more interesting. Stronger not as far South and negatively tilted earlier...am I reading this wrong? Given that the models tend to under estimate the comma head is there still a chance?
Posted by: Snowlover at November 28, 2006 2:47 PM
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