Jeff thanks for the info radar looks good
Jerry action weather fan

Jeff

Thanks for the update. Still hoping the last few model runs will throw a wrinkle in things and wind up with a 5-8 inch band through the metro. All models seem to be pretty consistent for now though. The 12Z NAM does seem to put the .5-.75 band up to the south side of the city. Is it safe to assume it will be heavier on the south side? Most of Kansas appears to be in the .5-.75 area.

Thanks,

Matt Maisch

i am think we will see atleast 5in in the northland! that is what i hope.... any how is there any chance this storm could dump a boat load of snow on us more than what is called for?

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Jeff:

Good Morning to you sir!!! This is my last time bothering you for a while-all of you have enough going on for sure!!! One other observation that is important I think is that we are holding pretty steady in the mid 20's-I think they will remain there as it feels like the atmosphere is really starting to get saturated-hopefully the WAA won't be too much of an issue!!! Have a great day!!!
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Bill,

As often happens right before the snowstorm hits (I am talking as if we really are used to this LOL), there is sinking air and this is why we are heading to 32 degrees or higher before the snow starts. This is OK though. Look at the radar.

Gary

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How much does it look like Smithville might get?? Same? You guys do great!
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Richard,

Amazingly, everyone is in the same boat!

Gary

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Jeff,

Is there any chance that the deformation band can set near us in KC? Any chance of any THUNDERSNOW? That would jack up the snow totals quickly. Also, what would be the most accumulation that any one could see from this storm?
Andy
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Andy,

We can hope for some convective elements in this storm, but the upper low appears that it will end up north of us and this will eliminate the chance of a deformation zone over our area.

Gary

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hello jeff after this storm are there any more on the horizon or does it warm up?
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John,

There has been so much going on in the short range we haven't talked about the long range, for this reason and for the fact the models have been all over the place. We will discuss this on Sunday.

Gary

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Everbody do the snow or that is the chicken dance for 6"++++++++++++++++++++!! And for the Storm to move a bit Southern for even more SnoW!!

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Gary:

Thanks again for the responses-yea, just as I typed that, (as I knew it would lol) our temp. began to rise-it makes sense-it just always freaks me out!!! Radar looks great-in the process of moving lumber around, but am taking breaks to bother you and check the radar!! LOL I noticed that dreaded dry slot on the GFS-the new RUC shows it comming into southern Kansas by 0z Sunday as well-I think the 12Z NAM had it a tad east-always something isn't there!!! If only that ULL could some how track about 50 miles further south...

Loved the comment about if we were used to it-isn't that the truth!!!LOL-I am now going to watch the sky and keep that straw handy hoping that the ULL keeps a bit eastern fetch into Texas bfore heading more North!! In the end though, 3-4 inches of snow is awesome so while I may in my snow goose mind hope for 6, I am very happy with what is about to happen-estatic truth be known!!! In Feb. last year I would have gone crazy for this!!!!! Have a great day and good luck!!!!

Bill in Lawrence

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It looks like it might start snowing even earlier.

Is the low still going to go north of us? I was looking at the satellite and it looked like the low was around El Paso. That would mean it would take an almost straight northern path... you don't see many storms doing that.
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Brian,

The low is very likely tracking north of us, but we will still have a 12 hour snow event beginning at 3 PM, or earlier as you stated. So, 3 to 6 inches is likely.

Gary

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Hello, I have a question that I am almost embarassed about. On any type of radar, ESP, NexRad, anything, why is it that when the type of precip. moves over the radar, it will just all of a sudden not show up on radar, or if it will it will be straight lines ejecting out in all directions. Also another question. Since a radar uses radio transmition(?) to track where precipitation is, is that wave sent out in a 360 degree wave or it it sent out in a sweep? Do you understand what I am trying to say? I've alwaysed wondered about that--both of the questions--and was wondering. It may be too late, but, this Low can always move further south. You NEVER know what may happen!
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Alden,

To get a 10 inch snowstorm out of this the upper low would have to track further south, but the vort max, which may cause the most intense lift could track near us so we still have to watch for a heavy band, but most likely the 3 to 4 inches I am expecting is going to happen. Any more would just be a bonus for us snow lovers.

The radar goes around in a sweep. So, when it leaves the radar site it is right at the ground, once it gets out 100 miles it is showing the precipitation much higher up in the clouds.

Gary

Hello Gary,
It look like on radar the snow may begin soon, does this mean more snow or mean the snow will shut off after the 12 hour seem to be moving fast
Anne

I have been watching a radar loop summary that covers most of the US and the storm doesn't appear to moving very fast at all.

Comma head seems to be trying to form out around the Midland/Odessa area in Texas at this point.

With so much Pacific moisture being pumped into this storm, I'm wondering if we may get a surprise in the snow totals for this weekend.

if i may Gary, what alden is trying to describe is what you see around EAX when the pricp is right over the radar. this is due to the fact, as you said, the radar is more or less a large radio. as the pricp falls, or in fact, anything is near the radar. the radar picks it up and becomes confused as to the location of the stuff it's picking up, and how intense it is, the radar's Reciever is overloaded and becomes confused. All radar's suffer this, no matter how good it is.

As for why it "vanishes" that is because the radar can not look straight up. as the storm passes right over the radar. there is what is called the "cone of silence" it is because the radar only looks up to a fixed point and the radar won't show anything above that point.

this is the advantage of ESP's 5 radar's it can cover the "cone of silence" of EAX from the Topeka radar.

hope this helped to make it a little clearer.

Good day again everybody-I just can't stay off the computer!!! LOL Just general FYI: The NWS out of Wichita has issued a heavy snow warning for Sout central Kansas including Wichita, Salina and Huthcison. Fun to watch this evolve before our very eyes!!!!
Radar is just blossoming to our South for sure-I think it is snowing in Emporia so good times they are a commin!!!! (If you like snow!!!!)

Bill in Lawrence

Finally a storm that looks to be a dead on hit without the big worry that it will totally miss us up until the last moment! Oh, sure things can still happen, but it is less stressfull with this one so we can enjoy it more. Righ now St. Joe is under a thick high cloud deck, wich I will watch slowly lower more and more and then the snow should start:):)
Thanks for your time.
Nick in(pre storm) St. Joe!

It's 2:54 pm and it's starting to snow up north near 48th and N Brighton. Going for more than 6 inches. My 3 year old can't wait......she's been looking for it all day.

Gary, looking at NexRad RADAR and it's saying that there is NO snow but it is all rain. What do you think of this? I cant believe that there is no snow on the radar. But, it is snowing. Just letting you know.