I'm seeing some backbuilding out west. Are you seeing the same thing?

Why hasn't NOAA issued a Snow Advisory? Seems odd not too.......

Gary, in Knob Noster at 1:20 PM the snow is getting heavier and larger flakes falling sideways. It is starting to accumulate and cover everything. I sent you an E-mail of a really bad Ice storm in Europe.....check it out when you have time. Once again your forcast was on the money, though there was no doubt it wouldn't be.

Fayetteville Jim

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Hey Gary!

Just curious how this little snow maker fits into the LRC model?

Thanks,

Don
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Don,

This entire pattern fits with the LRC. We thought we would have these types of snow events, but more like 3 or 4 inches with these not just one inch.

Gary

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We have just over 1 inch of snow here in leavenworth at 1327 hours. It is still coming down pretty well here. hopefully the atmosphere is saturated enough to backfill that radar echo a little bit. Any chances of that?
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Murphy,

It is coming to an end!

Gary

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Gary:

Good afternoon sir!!! Still snowing here in Lawrence and it is awesome out!!! My students are going crazy-been a great day showing the radars and models to them. It is slowing down but can't complain at all-grass is pretty much covered and the roads are somewhat slick-this does not look to disappear for a spell!!!

One interesting thing about that stronger band to our south: that is pretty darn close to where the GFS and NAM showed the heavier qpf with this system-interesting stuff!!! If we just had a bit more lift and a bit stronger system...oh well-will take what we can get-snow is snow and will get to play in it this afternoon!!! Have a great day

Bill in Lawrence
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Bill,

This was a one inch snowstorm. I don't think I want to blog about it, but the bloggers would be amazed if they spent the afternoon here. From the left, the right, upstairs, downstair, viewers calls.....somehow people think we got the forecast wrong. One person came in and said man I though you said there was only going to be an inch. And I said, yes and this is how much has fallen. And the person says, that's only an inch. Amazing. It's as if no one believed our 80% chance of snow and the dusting to 2 inch forecast. Even our bosses.

The forecaster can never win.

Gary

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It's really snowing here in north central henry co. Really enjoy the 41 blog, keep up the good work weather team!

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DD,

Thanks for the update and checking in!

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Just got home from college and it is snowing decently, right now we have what I would call a "thick dusting", we have seen some people sliding around up here even with the low amounts of snow. I have also noticed that at times you can see the sun up here while it is snowing!
It is nice to have some snow again!
Thanks for your time.
Nick in (snowy) St. Joe!

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Nick,

Thanks for the report! All blogger reports are being looked at...we just have a lot to go through! Keep them coming!

Weather Team

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Oh, forgot, first time blogger, long time watcher. We still have 2 inches of ice on the ground. We are in northern Henry Co. MO.
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DD,

Let us know your final total.

Gary

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Gary,
Looks like this is turning out to be your kind of winter!!
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Jo,

Yes it is, but sunny and 70 is looking pretty good right now.

Gary

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Hello Mr. Lezak, reporting just over .8 inches of snow in Leavenworth.

Ben/leavenworth
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Thanks Ben!

GAry

It is 3pm and I have a bit over 1" of snow here in Overland Park, at about 75th and I-35. I dont expect much more as the radar echos are showing the end of the snow very close.

i would say we hav around 1 1/2 of snow in Independence, still comming down(lighter) roads all SNOW COVERED. i hope we dont have school tommorow!!

Andy

SO is there any chance for the snow amounts to increase at all. Looking ahead to the rest of the week and beg. of next is there any more snow in the forecast?
Jonathan

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Gary,

I seem to remember your snowfall forecast from the 10 pm newscast only having 0.4-0.5 inches over all of Kansas City?
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Jeff,

Our forecast on the map was for .4 to .5" on the map. But we went dusting to 2 inches in our forecast. Are you criticizing our forecast. Do you know that 1/2 inch is about the same as 1 inch. What is happening in this world?

Gary

1/2 inch here in St. Joe.

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I find it truly amazing how the storm after storm over a period of 3 to 6 months the same 50 mile wide swath of land will get the heaviest precipitation. Nevada to Clinton to Sedalia have been hit consistently since mid November. I have seen this in Winters(and
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Jim,

Great observation. This goes hand and hand with my weather pattern theory. The same pattern is cycling over and over, and even though there are differences with each storm they are all following similar paths. And, this happens every year. It really becomes noticeable when you are the one getting missed.

Gary

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Hi,

I just measured 2.1 inches of snow just north of Harrisonville at 5:15 P.M.
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Brent,

Thank you. We will put it on the air.

Gary

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Gary,
This winter continues to be very disappointing for those who live in areas in Platte County. KCI only had a little more than half an inch of snow and still only has near 6.5 inches for the season so far. February had better produce more snow for areas of northern Missouri that always seem to get very little snow.
Devin
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Devin,

It is a bit ridiculous, but somewhat expected. Every storm is taking a path that leaves the northern side with less each time. Maybe you will still get one of these.

Gary

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Gary,
I just want to say dont pay any attn to anyones gripes. If they knew how to forcast the weather they would be doing your job. I must say myself that I think you are a great weather man and your excitement for the weather makes you even better than the rest. Please keep up the good work and never loose that joy in what you do. By the way we had about 1/2in of snow over here by worlds of fun.

nikie
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Nikie,

Thanks for the Worlds of Fun area report and for the kind words.

Gary

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Hey Gary,
I got your back on this one. You said 1/2 inch to an inch last night, and that's exactly what happened at KCI. It appears everyone forgot how to drive on the snow. Maybe the stars aren't alligned with Jupiter or something. I agree with you that forecasting a half inch of snow is difficult to do, and that's about as close as I've ever seen to that type of forecast proving truth! As far as I'm concerned your forecast was the most accurate, and there is no reason I can see for gunning on it. Good job, Gary!
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TW,

Thanks! There is no room for criticizm today. I appreciate the kind words.

Gary

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Anybody who criticizes this weather team doesn't watch all 4 stations very much. Gary and his team are easily the most accurate weather forecasters in the KC area. Hands down.

I received 1" of snow in Blue Springs near Grain Valley. That brings me to 14.5 " of snow for the season (I don't include sleet and ice).

Keep up the good work and bring us some more snow!
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Brian,

Thanks for the update, but you are allowed to add the ice and sleet in there for your total!

Gary

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Gary:

Good early evening sir!!! Quick check in from Lawrence-just came in from being out with the boys-great time-much colder (obviously) than last weeks event!! We got around an inch-if I stretched it out on a rack maybe and inch and a half-just enough to shovel the driveway and make many roads slick!!! Hope all is well in KC with the pile up.

You do indeed have a thankless job!! I'm not sure where the issues are comming from-this storm did exactly what you thought it would-you and the team forecasted it perfectly. One quick clarification: when I said it would be here for a spell, I meant it would be on the ground for a spell!! I still think it is pretty cool how the GFS and NAM showed that one heavier band on the qpf out put to our south.

Hang in there sir-you and the team do an awesome job and provide the viewers and Bloggers with some great insight that many would not share-I say kudos to you!!! Now, time to see if maybe we can get a little more of a mositure kick with the passage of front Friday and if this small snow will effect temps. Friday and Saturday-doesn't take much to amuse me does it!!!! LOL

Bill who loves any snow in Lawrence
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Bill,

Yes it is amazing. I did not even want to know what other forecasts in town were, but I am certain they were all about the same with this storm. There should be praise for meteorologists today. Not criticism!

There is hope for more excitement this winter, perhaps in the next few days.

Gary

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Gary,
This is my first visit to your weather blog - I like it. Is there an RSS feed?
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Clayton,

I barely no what an RSS feed is? But, I don't think we have one?

Welcome to the blog. You can teach me something to start out.

Gary

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Pleasanton KS has 3 1/2 inches of snow at 7:45 pm. I have to say that I am loving all this snow and winter weather we are having. It has been a very long time since we have had a good winter. Love it!!!!! Monica
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Monica,

Wow! You have had an amazing winter. We will add this to your total.

Gary

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Are some people that ignorant?

Well that is all i will say about that.Great forecast here in Appleton City we had 2 and a half inches. I think we could have had 3 inches if not for the dry spots in the precipitation getting right on us.
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Daniel,

Appleton City can't complain for at least a year.

Gary

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Hi Gary,
We got about 1.5" here in Lenexa. We are having a light snow shower right now (8:15) but it is not showing up on radar. Any more snow chances in the near future?

David
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Thanks David!

Gary

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Gary, people are really complaining/criticizing/quibbling over an inch or so of snow?! You've got to be kidding. Snow forecasts are (and have been for the 39 years of my life) ranges...0" to 2", 1" - 3", 2" - 4", 3" - 5", 4" - 8", 6" - 10". Now, if a forecast range and an actual snowfall range vary by more than 4", well, then maybe complaints can start coming in...maybe.

On another topic and related to an earlier post, watching the radar loops on the NWS site this winter has been like deja vu...like watching the movie Groundhog Day! Time after time, the heaviest bands continue to be south between Ottawa and Chanute and then eastward from there. I'm moving down there! Maybe next winter it will be Ottawa to St. Joe and eastward...and the KC metro will get more of those heavier bands.

In closing, if you ever forecast 0" - 2" the night before a snow event and we actually receive 6" - 10", then I will let you know you were off and complain. Wait! If we would get 6" - 10", I definitely would NOT complain. ;-)

All the best,
Jay
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Jay,

Great points! Maybe this winter will have one of those finale's in it.
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And, I think I accidentally deleted Alden's post:

Hello, this is to get your mind off all of this comtion for a minute. I forgot, how excatly do you determine your theory? Do you just guess or look at some data and trends? Now, to continue with your no criticism day, I will say this. 4 years in a row, CERTIFIED most accurate, your own weather theory, some of the best meteorgolists in the nation, being apart of NBC NEWS as one of the stations of the network that Americas News Leader, etc.... You have just about everything that make NBC Action Weather+ GREAT! Keep up the great work for the people that trust you!

I'm still trying to think of more ideas for you. I let you know of one as soon as I have it.
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Alden,

We analyze, very uniquely, the data in September through early November as the pattern sets up. Then we make the winter forecast. Go back and read the posts.

Gary

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Hi Gary,
I just wanted to report that Iola got between 3 and 4 inches of snow! Law enforcemnet reported 2 inches at 4pm and I would say we have at least 3.5 now.
Tabitha in Iola
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Thanks Tabitha!

Gary

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Your forcast was perfect! there is no reason for anybody complaining!!
Maybe people got suprised by the slickness of the roads and it made the storm mentally seem bigger to them, well thats my attempt at an educated guess;)
we may have a third to a fourth of an inch(as I like to call it "a thick dusting") with still light flurries falling from very low clouds.
Looking at the radar in Omaha, it looks like the light flurries may continue for a little while.
Thanks for your time.
Nick in (heavily dusted) St. Joe!
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Nick,

Hopefully we will get a storm to take a northern track this season so you can boast for a change.

Thanks for bringing the Omaha snow flurries to our attention. It may or may not make it down here in the morning, but that would be another dusting for you. The surface winds go calm so that area of snow may just fall apart, but it is a hint of what could happen in the next week.

Gary

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Gary,

Just finished shoveling the driveway and taking the kids out for our "official" measurement: 1.75 inches in south O.P. about 162nd and Nall. That puts us at 17.6 inches for the year (8.75 on Nov. 30, 2.1" sleet, 5" on the level from 01/17 + today).

I believe "normal" snowfall is around 20" so we need a couple more inches to break that barrier.

Icefishing report: I spent most of today ice fishing--ponds had almost 7 inches of ice (only need 3-4 inches for solid icefishing). Also fished the submerged bridge on Middle Creek Lake in Louisburg. 5.5 inches on Middle Creek, but some open water by damn thanks to ducks and geese. Stay over old road bed. Continued cold weather means more ice and good fishing! No nead to head north this year.
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Gary:

Good winter's morning to you sir!! Lawrence is currently sitting at about 17 degrees with the snow glistening in the moon light-beautiful out this morning. One sure sign that we have had a decent stretch of winter: 17 degrees does not seem that cold!!!!

I hope you have a better day today than yesterday. After rereading the BLOG from yesterday it is apparent you had a rough one. Hang in there-you are a fantastic meteorologist and the whole weather team is top notch. One can not even begin to count the successes you have had since arriving here in 1992 (I have followed/watched you since you began with Mr. Thompson but can't remember the exact year)-just in this year you and the team nailed the Novermber event, began discussing the Jan, 12th storm before Christmas and more specifically, you have nailed the temps. over the last week including the 50's last Friday and the 19 on Tuesday-major kudos to you and the team!!! You are all aces!!!

The modles just don't want to give us much love regarding precip. with this cold air tomorrow-it makes sense considering the LRC (I think we are in the October type cycle??) and that hisorically with this strong of a NW flow it is hard for us to get decent moisture feeds accept for the clipper or if real lucky a cut off in the SW. However, those points aside, I wonder if maybe the modles are having some troubles figuring all this out due to the massive cold air-there do seem to be some higher cloud tops forming to our North and West back in the Dakotas and Western Nebraska-for sure, you can see the arctic front!! Still holding out hope that we can squeeze another inch out of the front some how. Models are trying to pop an 850 low in Oklahoma-straws anyone!!!

I hope you have a better day-the snow is beautiful this morning and if we can hold onto it today, we may have snow on the ground for 4-6 more days-great stuff!! Will be interesting to watch the satelite and see the 12Z runs!!! Again, Kudos to you and the team!!!

Bill in Lawrence
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Bill,

Yesterday was a very good day, so don't worry about us. We know that our forecast was about as accurate as it can be. It started out at 5 degrees early yesterday morning, which we hit on the nose, then it snowed and warmed up to 24. Our forecast high was 27, so we were within 3. There was some negative feedback, but we really felt great about it most of the day with exception of all of the accidents. It was very slick, especially at the beginning.

The sun will probably come out strong today and do its thing in getting rid of most of this new snow. And, the entire pattern is about to go through deamplification, at least for a while.

Gary

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Dense Fog in Western Cass County this a.m. The Cleveland and West Line area. Also, across the border into Miami County near Louisburg.
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